Against a Limper — Preflop and Postflop Strategy
Essence of the Situation
When a player limps before us, we need to choose: isolate, limp/overlimp, or fold. Key factors: - Limper's range (often ≈100%) - Limper's position and ours - Strength of our hand - Players behind
What We Know About Limpers
- Play almost the entire range from any position
- Few strong hands in limp — mostly junk, marginal, and speculative hands
- Main goal — stay heads-up with the recreational player
Isolate Ranges by Position (vs Limp)
- UTG: ~18%
- MP: ~24%
- HJ: ~30–35%
- CO: ~40%
- BTN: ~50–55%
Isolate Sizing
- Base: 3.5 bb + 1 bb for each limper
- Deep stacks (100 bb+): 4.5–6 bb
- Stacks 25–40 bb: 2.6–4.5 bb
- Against a calling station recreational player → size 6–10 bb
- Against restealers behind → tighten range, size more carefully
Limp-Fold vs Isolate
| Size | L-F | Size | L-F |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2x | 0.7 | 4x | 14 |
| 2–2.4x | 1.5 | 4.1–4.9x | 20 |
| 2.4–2.6x | 3.5 | 5x | 24 |
| 2.6–2.9x | 5.8 | 5.1–5.9x | 27 |
| 3x | 5.5 | 6x | 33 |
| 3.1–3.4x | 8.5 | 6.1–8.1x | 32 |
| 3.4–3.6x | 10 | 8.1–10.1x | 37 |
| 3.6–3.9x | 11 |
Note: This table shows how isolate raise size (Isolate Size) affects the chance a limper folds (Limp-Fold %). The bigger the raise, the more likely they fold.
Application: - Against weak players prone to limping, use larger sizes (e.g., 4.5x–6x) to take the pot preflop. - If the limper calls often, use smaller sizes and play for value or exploit weak postflop play. - L-F is approximate fold percentage for given isolate size.
Example:
If you isolate to 5x, the limper folds ~24% on average. At 6x — ~33%.
Postflop Strategy vs Limpers
Value Bets
- No need for balance vs limpers
- Use large sizes: 44% – 115%
- Example:
- AKo on A98s — 60%
- AKo on A98r — 44%
Reaction of the pool vs c-bet on flop — see detailed tables in source.
Slowplay
- On dry boards with top two pair or the nuts, check
- Let them bluff, collect value on later streets
Medium Value
- 2 streets of value: 33% flop + 70% turn / or 70% turn + 40% river
- Alternative: 3 bets of 33%
Bluff Strategies
Frequencies:
- Flop: 90%+
- Turn: 60%
- River: 60%
Lines:
- 33% flop → 33% turn → 66% river
- Bet-check-bet: 33% flop, check turn, 66% river
Playing Against Donk Bets
- Donk frequency: ~14%
- Small size → weak, medium-strength hands
- Large size → value
Our Reaction:
- Donk ≤ 50% pot → raise with pairs, overcards, draws
- Turn: 40–50%
- River: 66% (when no showdown value)
- Donk river < 40% — often weak → bluff-raise (2.5–3x)
General Conclusions
- Limper is capped → widen isolate range
- Play maximally value-oriented
- Be cautious with bluffs, choose low-variance lines
- Pressure weak lines: min donks, double checks, lack of aggression
Navigation
- Preflop vs Limper
- Postflop Strategy vs Recreational Player
- Isolate Sizing by Position
- Playing vs Donks After Isolating a Limper
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